I’m glad the Quandts have acknowledged BWMs past. My own actions, my own failures…are job number one enough for me. Harald Quandt was a German industrialist, the son of industrialist Günther Quandt and Magda Behrend Rietschel. Tales of bravery and unimaginable horror that unfortunately will never see the light if day. Sure, many Palestinians are good citizens of Israel and just want to make a living. Was anyone really surprised by this? Since you brought it up, I can’t sympathize with a group that has fomented war with Israel from without in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and from within on a constant basis since the late 19th century. a) democracy Required fields are marked *, Review of “Jackals: The Stench of American Fascism” by Alex Constantine, “The Good Taliban”: U.S. I could be wrong but offhand I think no more than 100,000 of the 600,000 or so Jews in Palestine in 1947 were survivors of the Holocaust. Those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it. We were all aware. How about, They should be ashamed as hell. To say that “that was war” is just a real easy way out. What is meaningful is that a family that is worth billions has never acknowledged how that fortune came to be until finally prodded by a television program. Group – “Welcome Dieter. Hitler converted German factories to build his weapons as well, though he did it in the most dispicable, disgusting and inhumane way possible. In 1999, BMW and other German companies founded the “Remembrance, Responsibility and Future” foundation, which provides compensation to former forced laborers. Some German commentators surmise the broadcast was not announced in advance for fear of legal interference from the Quandts to block the program. ca. Auotblog. BMW is paying reparations to people at your synagogue by making the best cars in the world available for their pleasure. Lots of companies from Germany have the stain of Nazi involvement. 126, also signed by Crowley. To begin with, Simon Reich was only one of a number of historians who worked on the project and they were hired not by the Ford family but rather by the company. http://www.businessweek.com/print/globalbiz/content/oct2007/gb20071010_765240.htm, Your email address will not be published. He first married Antoine ‘Toni' Ewald. Let’s face it, there were not that many survivors. Herbert Werner Quandt (22 June 1910 – 2 June 1982), was a German industrialist who is regarded as having saved BMW when it was at the point of bankruptcy and made huge profit in doing so. BMW’s past? But finger pointing and going, “ya, well so and so did this,” seems like little more than a weak defense from BMW fanboys who don’t want to feel guilty when they climb into their 5-series to drive to work tomorrow. You mean like in the Palestinian Authority where selling land to a Jew is a capital crime? Günther Quandt (28 July 1881 - 30 December 1954) was a German industrialist who founded an industrial empire that today includes BMW and Altana (chemicals). and stale bread. They acquired a majority on deadly sick BMW well after WWII and, by their money, saved that company. My synagogues parking lot today looked like a German dealership. These folks used ignorance as a facade so they could pretend not to be responsible for their actions. Hitler regarded him as “the leader of the growing Fascist movement in America”.”. Since the “child labor” isn’t forced to work for Nike, it stands to reason whatever the condition is at the Nike factory, it’s better than the alternative. Herbert Quandt was born in Pritzwalk, the second son of Günther Quandt (1881–1954) and Antonie ‘Toni’ Quandt (née Ewald). One of the Fords, I think it’s Billy’s cousin Benson Jr., is married to a Jewish woman and donated a Torah scroll to the temple they attend. “It’s for me a step in the right direction that the Quandt family, after so many decades, finally is willing to face its history,” says Carl-Adolf Sörensen, a former Danish resistance fighter who was sent to the Hannover-Stöcken concentration camp in 1943. A lie that is not exposed is an evil capable of coming back to life. If you are a parent, how would you feel if one of these workers was you child? I am truly disheartened that a purported wordsmith would rely on Google or other internet searches to divulge as fact, what actually occurred during war. A lie sucessfully covered up is more powerful than a lie that is exposed. In 1937, Günther Quandt was appointed the “War Economy Führer.” Family dynasty behind BMW admits to using 50,000 slave labourers during Nazi era Daily Mail. On October 20, 1942, under authority of the Trading with the Enemy Act, the U.S. Congress seized UBC and liquidated its assets after the war. I agree with Ronnie: ….” your attempt at moral equivalence between America and Nazi Germany is repugnant”……..and I add ignorance beyond comprehension. and point of fact…ANY company selling war materials and making a profit are by definition…war profiteers! Eight of the hundred currently richest Germans are among his descendants. Günther Quandt . The documents from the Archives also show that the Bushes and Harrimans shipped valuable U.S. assets, including gold, coal, steel and U.S. Treasury bonds, to their foreign clients overseas between 1931-33. Do what we want or we kill you. After that, nobody really had a chance to change this, whether he was a local GM, Ford, Mercedes boss or even a simple farmer. So erlebte ich die Westsahara 1989 im Krieg – der neue Krieg wird ein anderer After all…it was well into the Nazi regime before anybody truly understood the horrors being committed. This apology probably should have happened back in January. Some 200 French prisoners of war were employed.” In a statement to the US Army in 1945, Schmidt said that the Gestapo began to play an important role at Ford Werke after the first foreign workers arrived. How could they keep companies they took, art, jewels, lives? But I do tire of belated apologies made on the behalf of one’s ancestors, such as still happens today with the slavery issue in the US and Africa. It’s nothing to be proud of, but what’s done is done, and acknowledging what has happened is a big step toward making amends with victims. I’m not sure how they became residents of a place they, as you say, want to get rid of. By 1941 Ford of Germany had stopped manufacturing passenger vehicles and was devoting its entire production capacity to military trucks. And we waged terrible war on them – including the killing (and incineration) of hundreds of thousands of women and kids in cities. It was war. It isn’t just about Henry Ford. If you’re going to get on BMW for their war activities, you’ll have to do it separately from the Quandt’s. It would seem that you didn’t understand the points raised in the article. I bowed out because I missed the memo where we had progressed in the discussion to insulting relatives. I guess no one finds it amazing that BMW and Mercedes and now VW suddenly got this conscience for the past in the 1980s, after the United States promised them immunity from prosecution by Holocaust survivors, in return for donations to a fund…so they could build their plants in the US and make a bloody fortune? War was Hell. The sins of the father are not the sins of the son. I do blame Germans for killing both of my grandfathers during the war. It’s not possible to independently verify that–or anything else regarding Dearborn’s wartime economic relationship with Cologne–because Ford of America was privately held until 1956, and the company will not make available its balance sheets from the period…, …An account by Robert Schmidt, the man appointed to run Ford Werke in 1939, states that the company used forced laborers even before the Nazis put the plant in trusteeship. In 1940 he agreed to make 9,000 Rolls-Royce Merlin engines, 6,000 of which were going to go to England, then at war with Germany. His second wife Magda, which he had married when she was half his age, divorced him eight years later, only to marry propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels, with Adolf Hitler as a witness. “The accusations that have been raised against our family have moved us,” said the family in a statement. As for the owners of BMW, they’re pretty late to the party, and their unpaid reparations have only enriched themselves. The Silence of the Quandt family was broadcast by Norddeutsche Runkfunk (NDR), an affiliate of the national ARD network, and was based on five years of research by authors Eric Friedler and Barbara Siebert. Why do you want to deny employment to willing workers? It was a vicious regime all the way around. That’s about the same number of 1948 refugees that Palestinians claim. Well said TrailerTrash. How convenient. Do you really have a single ethical bone in your body or do you just think you do? get another. Many businesses that were taken away from Jewish owners ended up in the hands of Quandt. Their families moved into what is now Israel as the Zionist enterprise created economic growth in what had been a mostly depopulated and desolate backwater in the Ottoman empire. BMW, his most valuable asset, was inherited by his third wife Johanna Quandt and their children, Stefan Quandt, 46, and Susanne Klatten, 50. Günther Quandt (28 July 1881 – 30 December 1954) was a German industrialist and Nazi who founded an industrial empire that today includes BMW and Altana (chemicals). Some old Italian hurt another old Italian and we have the continuation of the mob wars carried on fathers down to sons. Most factories in the US were feverishly feeding the American war machine during WWII, so why would Germany be any different? Eight of the hundred currently richest Germans are among his descendants. He was born in Pritzwalk in Germany, the son of Emil Quandt (1849-1925), who had married in 1883 the daughter of a rich textile manufacturer (Reichswolle AG) … He was born in Pritzwalk in Germany, the son of Emil Quandt (1849–1925). If they were just going to kill me – who knows, maybe I’d make a brave stand. Henry Ford was a Nazi sympathizer, here is a quote: “He also was a celebrity pacifist and a major promoter of antisemitism in the early 20-th century USA, credited with having a major influence on the nascent Germany’s Nazi movement in the 1920-s by prominent Nazis. But judges concluded that he was a mere Nazi "fellow traveller" who played no active part in committing the crimes of the Third Reich. In one letter, penned shortly after France’s surrender, Dollfus assured Dearborn that “we will benefit from the main fact of being a member of the Ford family which entitles us to better treatment from our German colleagues who have shown clearly their wish to protect the Ford interest as much as they can.” A Ford executive in Michigan wrote back, “We are pleased to learn from your letter…that our organization is going along, and the victors are so tolerant in their treatment. The 1940s created millions and millions of refugees. In keeping with its normal policy, the automaker made no comment about the Quandts, but noted that it has publically confronted its own wartime history via independent research projects. Hundreds of slave laborers died or were executed. But he didn’t herd them into war production factories and worked them without medical care, proper food, or shelter, until they had no more value as a worker, to be shipped to a death camp for extermination. I also don’t think it’s fair to say that the Ford family hired that author to clear their names. Think about it. Buchwald, a Ford employee since the mid-thirties, the Gestapo carefully monitored plant activities. I wasn’t aware of clothing manufacturers rounding up children based specifically on their religion, separating them from their parents at gun point, tattooing them like cattle with a serial number, then working them to death, or if they did not work fast/hard enough sending them to gas chambers to die. People similar to or like Günther Quandt. Wikipedia as a source of information is always a bit suspect, but it seems like the whole area has continued to be affected by large scale immigration, even before World War II, after the initial ‘wave’ of the First Aliyah. Like many German industrialists, the family had no problem with supporting the Nazis, and were particularly enthusiastic when it came to war production as all those machines would need batteries. Thanks Ronnie, you took the keystrokes right from my fingers. I would much rather pay an extra few dollars for a pair of sneakers and know that the workers that made them are being treated like human beings, instead of like a commodity. The ball is in Palestine’s court and it is time they stop lobbying bombs back instead of the damn ball. Perhaps worse the slaves, they were literally worthless, since they didnt cost anything. So Rosie the Riveter who volunteered and earned wages was just like the dying skeletal prisoner? Dezember 1954 in Kairo) war ein deutscher Industrieller aus der Familie Quandt. The Sgt Schultz family “I know nothing…” – what else is new? You mean like in Jordan, where Jews are not allowed, by law, to be citizens? Since this has degenerated into personal attacks, I will no longer respond to any additional posts, however, I will say that since you apparently have a need to insult the relatives of others, my opinion of you has changed considerably. Return what was stolen during the War? There is a massive difference between what BMW, VW, Bayer, et al did in World War II versus American manufacturing. We could go on an on, but since this article is about the Quandt family, not even BMW, why bother? For fun and profit? The next step is to pay reparations, do the right thing, and move forward. Günther Quandt. They were in the process of pursuing a case against him when he died in 1943. ARD officials denied the speculation and said they decided to air the program only after the Film Festival premiere. what APaGttH says in the first ‘graph. I have enough of my own demons to fight every day. However, there is one interesting family fact that is not in dispute—and not widely known by modern BMW enthusiasts. BMW, of which the Quandts became major shareholders 15 years after the war, was not implicated in the documentary. Despite his Nazi membership—and, as it now appears, his use of slave labor—Günther Quandt was deemed after the war to have been more of a “passive follower” than a convinced Nazi. IF to speak or suggest otherwise is to brand innocent with the wrongs of other guilty. His parents divorced and his mother was later married to Joseph Goebbels. I will respond to you sir, because you understand. In fact, BMW had already acknowleged forced labor in BMW factories and paid into the fund. No one can undo the heinous and cowardly acts that were committed during WWII by the third reich. BMW, Mercedes, they were part of Germany’s industrial machine. But as a group, they are sworn to destroy the nation in which they live. In August, under the same authority, Congress had seized the first of the Bush-Harriman-managed Thyssen entities, Hamburg-American Line, under Vesting Order No. I can tell from your post that you have never served, and have no concept of what occurs during war. Personal greed is no force majeur. I don’t think it’s fair to characterize “the Ford family” based on Henry’s actions. The Palestinians get better treatment from the Israelis than they deserve. Shoot, Bayer owner 43% of the company that made Zyklon B. The world is a complicated place and saints are rare. Oh! Did Henry Ford ever apologize for being a Nazi sympathizer and supporter? Perhaps more relevant to the topic at hand, from 1948 into the 1950s about 750,000 Sephardi Jews were made refugees from the Arab countries where they were born and lived for generations, by violence and threats of violence against Jews by Arabs aggrieved over the establishment of the State of Israel. The family’s holdings are worth an estimated $34 billion. During the Third Reich, Quandt company empire was kept running by more than 50,000 slave laborers. Eight of the hundred currently richest Germans are among his descendants. Die Häftlinge mussten täglich elf Stund… “Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer”, was the parole valid until 1945. The Arabs preferred to keep the Palestinians as outsiders to their societies, a festering sore and perpetual grievance to be used against Israel. Still, your attempt at moral equivalence between America and Nazi Germany is repugnant. History is a tough but fascinating subject and, at secondary school levels, not taught well enough or with an eye towards critical thinking about claims and conclusions. The overseas trading ended in – 1933. Immigration of Jews to Palestine after World War II was not much of a factor. Based on documents unearthed by the filmmakers, Quandt estimated a “fluctuation of 80 prisoners per month,” in his battery factory—a likely reference to expected deaths per month, the film claims. THis was wbusiness was done in under the Nazis. http://www.youtube.com/user/originalrhombus#p/a/u/2/shkgyrual2g, “There is a massive difference between what BMW, VW, Bayer, et al did in World War II versus American manufacturing.”. AFAIK, the kraft durch freude wagen (veedub Beetle) was commissioned by Hitler, Mercedes used forced labour by captives of the regime and BMW remained relatively(!) Of 1946. agreed. Also Ford AND GM were involved in war profiteering (this article is from the Washington Post): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm. get a rope! As long as there are humans, there will be conspiracy theory rewrites of history, the latest major US-based one being the 911 Truthers claims. As it has said here before by others, you simply can’t compare Nazi Germany with the US. It is very interesting though at this time one would think VW as being more of a “Nazi supporter” STILL than BMW, a more internationl company with more diverse management and no ambitions to “conqure the world” unlike…. 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Patton was Deeply Anti-Semitic & Believed in Superiority of the ‘Nordic Race’, Fascists in White Coats: The CIA’s Dr. Louis Jolyon West & the UCLA Neuropsychiatric Instititute, BMW Expresses ‘Profound Regret’ for Nazi Ties in Public Apology, Joseph Goebbels’ Inlaws are Germany’s Richest Family, Nazi Goebbels’ Descendants are Hidden Billionaires. Was among the first US troops into Buchenwald, it changed him forever. Pour bien des Allemands, Herbert Quandt est avant tout celui qui a évité la faillite de BMW, en rachetant en 1959 l'entreprise que Daimler s'apprêtait à liquider. Assets that he controlled were seized not once, or twice but four times under the Trading with the Enemies Act. The Quandt family, major shareholder of BMW, and one of the richest in Germany, is finally and belatedly confessing to its Nazi-past. What I am trying to do is keep it real. This ain’t the history channel. The trouble with Germany started far earlier than WWII. Nothing in here or other news reports about what the Quandts could do to make some kind of amends. Hitler was his best man. Now how about Mitsubishi admitting the same, or other Japanese corporations who profited from American POW slavery? Sven Quandt, a grandson of Günther and the only family member to appear in the documentary, says that he and his siblings cannot be held responsible for their grandfather’s activities. As Hitler wasn’t even Chancellor of Germany until 30 January 1933, that doesn’t seem all that incriminating. It also says that Quandt, who joined the Nazi party in 1933, wielded close family ties to the Nazi elite to grow his battery business. Did they gas the children after they can no longer work? Tras el inicio de la Primera Guerra Mundial, Günther Quandt fue nombrado director de la empresa estatal “Reichswolle AG”, principal proveedor de textiles del ejército imperial. They hire an historian to pretend they knew nothing. Patriarch Günther Quandt was an early member of the Nazi party, he joined 1933, after Hitler’s election. Max Fisher was his best friend and FoMoCo, under the deuce, set up a factory in Israel. Didn’t you get the memo? When the German Forced Labor Compensation Program was established, the family declined to make a contribution, claiming they had no reason to do so. The US policy of Japanese internment and property confiscation was reprehensible, and a little know part of American World War II history. That said: Günther Quandt had convinced Nazi contacts to send a Belgian competitor to a concentration camp after he refused to sell his company to Quandt. Old Man Quandt signed a contract with the SS to obtain concentration camp inmates as workers, with expected turnover of 75 days as the chemicals would kill them all since they were given no protective gear.

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