following your convoluted reasoning, a wife should forgive her husband 490+ trysts with the bathsheba of his choice. Before leaving each church, we shared our research with the pastors who made excuses, denied the facts and questioned our right to find fault with their church doctrine and leadership. Ill say the amen. I love him as my true brother in the Lord and because his weakness overtook him will not change that. Unless you have any evidence to prove differently you are wrong. (tvacute.com)Here we explained everything. He would simply confessown it all publiclywrite a new book on his time offand marvel at Gods grace toward him. He was already richI, Ive seen people get black balled by him..now the shoe is on the other foot , Id like to know how long this s.. went on and the people who knew said nothing out of fear of losing their job. For the gates of hell will not prevail against my church, thus saith The Lord! At times I feel I get a lot of unnecessary flack from some people, but they have to feel comfortable in expressing their opinion, even if I disagree. Ill go first. I will never stop praying that the Lord restores them to fully walk with and trust in the Lord again. I attended Calvary and sometimes was there 5 times a week for classes etc. You can listen at their website. Get over yourself. He will heal it. She can immerse herself into a good story no matter the genre or form and only come out from it when she's had her fill. The difference is: Peter had a one-time crisis of faith that was immediately repented of and perhaps more permanently cured by the Resurrection. Did I also read that Coy did not write his sermons and that this is common knowledge? (RNS) Florida megachurch pastor Bob Coy has resigned from his 20,000-member Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale congregation over a moral failing., A statement on the churchs website reported the news: On April 3, 2014, Bob Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, effective immediately, after confessing to a moral failing in his life which disqualifies him from continuing his leadership role at the church he has led since its founding in 1985.. Bob isnt. It also seems to be an across the board thing crossing doctrinal and denominational lines not limited to one type of church governance. All the best that money can buy. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and SHALL REIGN WITH HIM A THOUSAND YEARS. 8:00AM. They had the opportunity to speak clearly to this before anyone else. Police later spoke with the victim in September 2015, but she said she was not sure whether she wanted to go through with a criminal investigation or testify. MLD, nothing in your 708 says that the 1000 years of Revelation, are figurative. There's no question he wants back in the game," Newnham says. My walk with God is mine alone and that is why, respectfully, its none of your business. In 2006, gubernatorial candidates Charlie Crist and Tom Gallagher personally pleaded for Coy's endorsement, though he declined. Antonio, I think you were best served by disagreeing with MLD. 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I know of a young 20 something recent Bible college grad (female) who wrote sermons for him. Not one of us is perfect, which is why we are to put our faith in the Lord, not in man. Did you answer the questions? I know a lot of Jews who have self hatred! , Now, using your best effort, not to be like us and not being consistent, in denying the literal aspects of scripture and have to do exegetical gymnastics and use pretzel logic to try to prove their conclusions that the Bible does not mean what it says,- as you said. I would say this before you do anything , cry out to the Lord on your own and I mean CRY OUT!! Thank you, Nonnie for your prayers for my children! In one case, victims claimed the church knowingly moved a pedophile to another city without warning parents. That is precisely what I was working my way to. Which is it? Michael, youre kicking against Gods goading and your colors are showing. Moe- I misquoted the verse- I am usually more astute than that. Jesus is speaking in narrative form everything he has spoken up to this point is straight narrative, and no symbolism and no figurative speech; 26 Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. 27 And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, Drink of it, all of you, 28 for this is my blood of the[c] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. Yet, there is a worry that she went into the transplant with almost an excessive amount of carelessness. In searching for that video- I see it was in end November 2013- only 4 1/2 months ago- not graduation..even worse.. he dispatches each to their eternal destinies 5.) That is a bummer about Chet. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. # 8. Its the theology of sin management so inherit in CC theology. I have sympathy for this man (and especially his innocent family) because the Lord is instructing me in compassion, I also know that it has taken many years for my family to recover from the harm and hypocrisy of the leadership of this church under the helm of this man. Sharon, who has been given the news that she has chronic kidney illness, is content to spend the rest of her days with her husband, her children, and the profession she adores. One of the many reasons I left. I simply will not limit orthodoxy to 20th century American evangelical viewsand a niche of American evangelicalism at that. We will all disappoint others, we all sin, but Christ will always be there for us and will never let us down. 1 JOHN 1:8 If we claim to be without sin,we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. The good works and true worship rendered to Jesus by the people in this fellowship need to honored, promoted and protected within a leadership environment that regards Jesus and holy and true or they need to be redirected and redeployed elsewhere . You are a liar and you need to repent. Pastor Bob Coy and his wife Diane led a Florida ministry that grew to include satellite locations in Boynton Beach, Boca Raton, West Boca, Plantation, Hollywood, and the Keys, according to SunSentinel. Coy wouldn't be charged over her allegations. And then he quotes passages that dont contain the words he said Jesus said. At least some very close higerups did not because they are the ones who told Newnham knowing he would report it. Its hard for these followers of men to part with their pastorkings. Thats just the sad reality of sin I forgive you. I dont have time to comment much, but let me clear up a couple of things. Right now I agree that the church in Florida needs to rally around Bobs wife and children while at the same time taking necessary steps in church discipline towards Bob that he would overcome these sins and salvage his marriage and the relationships with his children if thats still possible. If so how can one person handle it all? No one is that big an idiot as you are letting on. That is actually their responsibility. I think so in time. I could.just throw up from the intentions of the church, surely the Spirit of God is more grieved in this than the sanctification process that may be happening in my home church. thank you so very much for that. Tell me why you need to be the first w news rather than respecting the church body and unity of faith and respecting that as a congregation, we need to be together to receive our family update. Michael, you agree with 0% of the things that come out of my mouth, so calling me ludicrous is only adding to the list of pejoratives Ive accumulated from you . Jesus Christ will come again to the earth personally, visibly, and bodily to judge the living and the dead, and to consummate history and the eternal plan of God. Bob wrote: Now how a man can be considered a great Bible expositor when he teaches that its OK to take the Mark?. Even some well known senior pastors have some unopened closets from the days of their youth. note the opening line Amillennialism is the mainstream Christian end-times theology. And I still think that those board members would think that was the best case scenario if that option was on the table. Maybe the crime scene was unprotected late that night. But peace to you anyways. 14 And they shall fly down upon the shoulder of the Philistines on the west; together shall they spoil the children of the east; they shall put forth their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them. Well I thought perhaps you had grown conveniently deaf at the question and needed me to shout it out so you could hear it clearly and answer it! Diane Downs gave birth to four children. He threw away everything, his family, his vows, his integrity, his reputation is forever damaged..why??? They are always the main arrows in the enemy quiver that are fiery darts. Miami New Times also pointed to a long list of other staff who are part of the global family of Calvary Chapel churches and have been accused of sexual abuse, including a number from earlier this year. But since the binding of Satan, the word has gone all over the word. His attorneys, meanwhile, persuaded a judge with deep Republican ties to seal the ex-pastor's divorce file to protect Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale from scrutiny. You are covering for a very scary thing. It just shows you cant answer me, so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. If you are blessed, you may find one to lay your weary self at for a while. You must have wrote it after I closed the thread. Youre right. Aka Danny Damond. There was too much drama with Kennedys passing at Coral Ridge. why do the most ardent Coy defenders have to use capital letters and too much punctuation? We all had the church turn its back on us as if we were liars and the pastor had his boardaka henchmen literally try to chase my family out of town to keep us quiet. The only point is the one they refuse to acknowledge. In another, he called adultery "the ultimate betrayal of trust in human relationship" and cautioned that "repentance is not just being sorry that you were caught.". OK, so now that is past, the claim is the church should have been told first. People are like sheep and will do what they are told. His publicist stated that Coddington was a long-time diabetic who died from complications that were brought on from a recent surgery for a perforated colon along with sepsis and kidney complications.[13]. More details are sure to come out and lets hope and pray for the best as time moves forward. "If you're broken, Jesus will be gentle with you in your anger and disillusionment," Sauder said. One of the women confided in her friend, and her friend confessed to another high profile pastor in the area that had a friendship with Coy. I appreciate what Alan wrote last night, and look forward to what he will continue to share. Or worse yet, intentionally sinning with the attitude of easy grace for themselves, but holding the congregation to a higher standard. It is plain as day but these are the same folks who bring us blood moons, 1,000 yr earthly Jesus reigns raptures etc.. , Macarthur being grossly misrepresented? No one really being in charge overseeing what was going on. At times like this we as Christians need to be more like Jesus and have lots of compassion towards a man who at least for me taught me how to have a true relationship with God and no one can take that away from Bob. he separates the sheep and the goats 3.) episode has aired, viewers are eager to find out what will happen in the Blue Bloods Season 13 Episode 15: You know that each episode of Blue Bloods consists of multiple storylines that all somehow relate to each SWAT Season 6 Episode 16 [Blowback] Luca makes a major decision, Young Sheldon Season 6 Episode 15: Meet the newest Cooper. I dont know anything about John Hagee (I dont watch TV), and as for Chuck Missler, I never listened to him. CC has deleted him from their history. At communion are you consuming the actual, real, body and blood of Jesus? , : - -, - -. Based on what you know about this situation, would you confirm Coys doctrine did not produce sound (healthy/whole) fruit? I understand the severity of this. It was not readily available. In other words, on any given day what looks like a bunch of anonymous posts are actually not. There are many Christian men who would not trade their happy monogamous marriages for the most beautiful women in the world. Youre not speaking Gods words, youre talking out your sanctimonious backside and youre in sin. They too should hear, hey, we all sin, we all slip up. Im sorry you have experienced the pain you described and hope the best for you. 1) He RESIGNED 2) there are 600 employees NOT 1000 etc .etc. Its because we do sin. The one who hung on a cross continues to be foolishness to the Greeks and a scandal to the Jews. On April 3, 2014, Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, after admitting to committing adultery and having an addiction to pornography. Flynn, youre like a bull in a china shop. This is between God, his family and him. Lol, they remind me of the dwarves in The Last Battle, who couldnt see the reality of Aslans return because they were so locked up in their dark world (help yourself to the symbolism there mr. Calvins disciple, plenty there for you)! I find some reaction funny I just read one comment elsewhere that said I am so deeply saddened that this has happened to him and his family.. "But we need to remember it is Jesus Christ who is our leader and not man.". Does anyone want to say anything about the women? Things like not drinking beer or lusting after women. Michael Can the post I sent last night at 11pm still be posted? We all do it. So good to hear from Diane Coy as she shared her testimony recently. Hugh if you are going to MOCK at least read the Bible before you mock people who do actually read it. You and I argue a lotbut Im in agreement with you on this matter. To simply read the Bible simply you would never come up with conclusions like; God has chosen some to go to Hell randomly, Jesus only died for the Christians, man does not have a free will to choose salvation, and the many false conclusions Calvinism draws. What happened at Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale? Period. Im not answerable to you. Bakkers son, Jay, wrote in 2001 that the Bakkers felt betrayed by Falwell, whom they thought, at the time of Bakkers resignation, intended to help in Bakkers eventual restoration as head of the PTL ministry organization. Bob Coy did not address the congregation on Sunday. Now this man was their bishop and without a bishop they were not sure if they would still be a church what to do? However, if the Pastor fails, I am called to be forgiving and cut him slack. http://members.tranquility.net/~rwinkel/911/Wakeup2/MLKTrial.html. Those in his wake need compassion. When we forget that, thats when we abuse the offices entrusted to us, men and women both. We learned of this report after it was disclosed and reported to the appropriate authorities. Michael- The attacks you are receiving remind me of the attacks I got when I was at that church attempting to do good. Just my two cents. I have been listening and watching other respected Pastors on Youtube. I have. Power and fame increases that chasm and insulates man from the accountable nudges from the Holy Spirit. Not a witch hunt at all. I hear the CC folks come on hear and proclaimwell were all sinners and only Jesus was perfect!yet they give Jesus-like powers to their Pastor rock star leaders in the form of the Moses Model where the Senior Pastor has all the power. When it comes to judging their own sinprivate meeting and dont judge!. Once again MLD is right. Pastor Bob will be focusing his full attention on his personal relationship with God and with his family. Do you think God is happy with Newnham right now? I dont think Ive ever seen this happen quite so quickly. What is 1,00 yrs to God? I havent been rebuked and cursed so much since Chuck passed away. The world will know you by your love for one another Lets starting loving a little more and get back to our Fathers business. MLD, I dont know anything about Babylons Dread. I got tired of responding to the nonsense. They have been taught by well-intentioned, thoroughly prepared, astute ministers who take their roles seriously. Thank God we are saved by grace through faith, I understand, my apologies once more to the forum and MLD, how each one wants to handle their feelings in this situation whether with condemnation or mercy is between them and God! Those that think me wrong for doing so, should set the example for me, and let it go. He did his best to always have accountability around him but I think its the pride more than the desire that got him. Youre down to 700; its not like youre bigtime anymore dude. Revelation 20:6. After the announcement, the congregation had a prayer and worship service. Not everything that calls itself Christian, actually is. As time goes on we grow and are sanctified as we choose to do those things that are right and lament the things we do wrong. Coy's faithful didn't know it, but just over a year after the pastor's resignation for adultery, Coral Springs Police launched their investigation into a far worse allegation. Dustyno issues, sishugs right back to you. You chose to join in I did not initiate the conversation. Youre saying he was fired which is inaccurate. ", Anne Marie Giri, a churchmember who was present at the announcement, stated that although the she was disappointed, we must not put our faith in human beings. Debbie, Larrythe next few days are going to be very difficult for you. The PCA is a family of churches that are doctrinally Reformed and governmentally Presbyterian. Founded in 1985 by Bob Coy and his wife Diane,. Talk about distractions in worship! Let this be a sign to youif your backside rebels you must repent. Miami's independent source of He declined to discuss the child abuse case except to say he is innocent and passed a polygraph test to prove it. We are so angry at one another so jealous, so accusing. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 'Jesus Revolution' leaves out the tough stuff but gets the music right, Sacked chaplain to appeal after losing employment tribunal case. "Our pastor, he committed adultery with more than one woman. the church sits on the new Mcnab which is an extension of Cypress Creek Road people confuse the two all the time. Sharon Leone (Diane Farr) is Vince's wife and the Chief of Division 1501 on the CBS original drama, Fire Country. Money really is the root of all kinds of evil. Bob is an example of what God can do with a man open to His correction. So where do you attend church? Unless you live in this area you have no idea the influence BC has had on it. Yes or no. no im not angry. Bob has helped save thousands with his teaching and we should leave the punishment up to God and pray that he will repent and use this fall to come back stronger than ever. The inner circle or big givers got to have dinner with DC and BC. But I cannot confirm on the matter. So pray for those left in the wake that HE made. Michael, one of the best messages I heard was when you posted Bob Sweats message on this topic. Do you worship Jesus as God incarnate, The Lord, The Creator, The Giver of Life? It took him completely by surprise and his first concern was for the church. It could very well be that Coy had them take his stuff down, not the other way around. Do we take measures that heal or expunge the record of his existence? The children inside the vehicle have no pulse except Diane's son Bryan. Well, what happened to the $ since there was never a new sanctuary? God has not finished the work that He started in this man, and He will work His miracles to restore what we as people see doomed. The internetbeing able to attend service from your computer also became possible. Although, he DID go before the congregation and HIS troubled marriage didnt lead to a sexual encounter. Kate Forbes: Would a Christian be permitted to lead Scotland. I guess you deemed references to lying in the Bible as Calvinist, so they dont apply to you. Who assigned you the daunting task of picking up the pieces? Is it ok, in your world view, that I feel a profound sadness at the pain and destruction his betrayal has caused him and those in his universe? As a matter of fact is your life faultless?..I know mine isnt yet we strive for wholeness in Him. 326 MICHAEL WHO MADE YOU MESSENGER?????????? Im Glad God is in charge and not most Christians, I guess most of us would not have let Peter preach at pentacost so soon after denying Christ! 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Pride paves the way to infidelity and/or sexual indiscretions. Scripture tells me Bob C thought it, conceived, it and did it. I believe it was originally 103 until those 2 donors backed out. I will remember next time. Was Nero the anti christ? Their lives will never be the same. All to help him and his family get over this. Only at least Coy got caught for his stuff, my step-dad CC pastor still gets away with it. You give me a link that says the MLK crime scene was unprotected that night. What are you talking about BD, the context was always Isaiah 11, I never made reference to Rev 5, you did, pulling a Jehovahs Witness move, instead of dealing with the passage, jumping somewhere that had nothing to do with the millennium that I was addressing, so you could try to prove your point, and your pretense at trying to be superior is typical of preterists when they cant defend their view! 7. they were generous givers. I know this to be true because you have stated many times that you read only the Bible. Con man. He confessed to it. I think that older men with less testosterone can dodge these bullets. May the Lord forgive each one of you, as well, who are rejoicing in the fall of a beloved preacher. In 2006, Coys church in Fort Lauderdale landed in court over claims of lax oversight. So all of a sudden it was announced to the congregation that he would be leaving in 2 weeks. The Holy Spirit is still at work. The Lord Knows. If I remember correctly-Fidels was before he was saved. I actually do not answer yes to all your questions. In case of her demise, she promised not to file a lawsuit. I have not been to this site in quite sometime (If anyone doubts that , Im sure Michael can verify that, right Michael?) Whenever we see something like that on a show like this, it causes us to get concerned. independent local journalism in Miami. Dont give the devil his way and cast stones. Church isnt a club or a pick up joint. We are all human and all the same essentiallythough fundamentalist Islam seems to be the worst religious ideology of all-time and the most dangerous and destructive. Hes a great teaching no matter what. The chapel's founder, Kent Nottingham, told a local TV station that there'd been no suspicion of abuse and that he was "shocked.". Only such as are born of the Holy Spirit and receive Jesus Christ become children of God and heirs of eternal life. Also, I notice Chef is no longer listed as a pastor. No one even asked. Active Word, a media ministry that distributed Coys Bible teachings on radio, television and digital media outlets, has also been suspended, according to a statement from the churchs board. MLD, your Acts 2 interpretation is from Luther. He had everyone mesmerized. #473, great post. There of course will be natural consequences for his sin (as there for all of us) when we too sin, but his will be on a much bigger stage. Sauder read a letter Bob Haskins wrote, talked briefly about Bob not being there, then turned it to Satan being at work, and how this is a time to look at ourselves. it never happened. "That changes today. Want me to tell you the amount of their FPL bill? I am not particularly attractive and it never ceases to amaze and disgust me when men will make a fool out of themselves in front of me and horribly, in front of their wives. People who know what they are talking about get bored real fast. I plainly tell you who I am, where I am coming from and what I believe and you continue to assert that I am something other than what I claim. And in this case the best may not be for Bob to return to active ministry. This church is a huge corporation and operates by the laws of the State of Florida and the U.S. Anyone know? Shortly after resigning, the disgraced pastor moved to Chattanooga, Tennessee, where Calvary Chapel has another affiliate church. As one who lives here in S.FL, there is nothing in the news about this. This thread is too important and affects too many people to allow the personal conflicts on it. Bob Coy's income source is mostly from being a . They ended up locked in dueling lawsuits, with the pastor accusing Calvary's leaders of skimming profits and the Smiths charging that he used his influence running the radio stations to pressure women into sex. MLD, again, Acts 2 isnt speaking on the truth of a literal 1000 years in Revelation. 2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him who was grabbed? A statement on the church's website reported the news: "On April 3, 2014, Bob Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, effective immediately, after confessing to a moral failing in his life which disqualifies him from continuing his leadership role at the church he has led since its founding in 1985." Bob Coy, at Liberty University's convocation in 2013. You jump in to the information I gave Mary, with your strong claims and accusations and then back out and say I dont have to answer. LOL. I will draw no further comparisons between yourself and a bird with a brain the size of a nut. Something really big is going to come out soon. Bode cared more about saving his mother than he did about himself. 16 The latter do so out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. Praying for all involved and also praying for those casting stones and pointing fingers. Yes, you have every right in our Constitution to report this..but what is legal and allowed may not always be the right thing to do.. in the sake of mankind and compassion for Coys wife and children and given the emotions they are going through at this time, perhaps some delay in reporting it until the church publicly announced it mightve been best and in order, the way the local mainsream media did. thoughts? Michael, mainstream christian media is PR only. Jessica Hahn was a plant and Bakker was a willing stooge but I still felt bad for him. I have documentation. Same with apologies. Maybe God never intended for Bob to have the mega church, Bob has said many times publically he would rather has a small congregation of true believers than thousands of people playing church. For the mature in Christit shows how the solid food does you well.please pray for all involved as you are doing.